In this special episode of the Be The Church Podcast, Joel Wayne hosts a powerful conversation with global ministry leaders—from Romania (Pastor Nelutu), Uganda (Pastor Ben David), and New York (Pastor Michael Rubino)—to answer one question: What does it actually mean to be a disciple of Jesus?
Together, they unpack the difference between being informed about Jesus and being transformed by Jesus and why Jesus consistently called people to become disciples—apprentices who surrender everything to the King. You’ll also hear stories of discipleship in real life: a pastor who thought he needed another Bible study… and got handed a rake; a Romanian leader navigating a culture full of nominal Christianity; and a call to reach people through everyday presence.
Whether you’re a pastor, leader, or a believer who wants your life to be “marked by Jesus,” this episode will challenge you to stop outsourcing the mission, break agreement with busyness, and step into the everyday disciple-making Jesus commanded.
What you’ll learn:
- Why Jesus said “make disciples,” not “become Christians,” and what that means for the church today
- The warning signs of “informed but not transformed” faith (and how sanctification actually shows up)
- Why you can’t claim discipleship without disciple-making (and how busyness becomes an idol)
- How disciple-making looks different in Romania, Uganda, and New York—but always happens through everyday life
- A practical first step: how to reach your neighbor with a simple offer of prayer and open the door to gospel conversations
- Why the “cultural church” model breaks down—and how biblical church multiplies through ordinary believers
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